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	<description>Make Yourself and Your Business Happy At Work</description>
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		<title>By: Alexander</title>
		<link>http://positivesharing.com/2006/09/top-performers-leaving-in-droves/#comment-5174</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>matt m: Thanks for a great comment!

I see your point about taking that pay cut for increased happiness at work, but I think there&#039;s one more issue here: If John leaves his frustrating, hellish and stressful but highly paid job for one that is much nicer but with a lower salary, this may affect the living standard of his family. Sure.

But now that John comes home fresh, happy and energized after an 8-hour work day (as opposed to angry, tired and stressed after a 10-hour one), his family may well find it a wonderful trade-off.

I think we invest way too much faith in the power of consumerism to make us happy, even though all pscychological studies show that, no, that 45&quot; flat-screen TV will not make us any happier. At all.

I agree with you completely on the necessity of motivating each person differently. What makes Ed happy will make Jane terribly unhappy and vice versa. I really like your point about &quot;making sure that the compensation packages I offered to recruits addressed all of the stakeholders in the decision making process&quot;.

As for the tasks that no one likes: They might be fewer than we think. When we allow people to choose for themselves the tasks they like to do, there will probably always be some left over, but often surprisingly few. I wrote about it here:
http://positivesharing.com/2006/08/lets-lose-the-job-descriptions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>matt m: Thanks for a great comment!</p>
<p>I see your point about taking that pay cut for increased happiness at work, but I think there&#8217;s one more issue here: If John leaves his frustrating, hellish and stressful but highly paid job for one that is much nicer but with a lower salary, this may affect the living standard of his family. Sure.</p>
<p>But now that John comes home fresh, happy and energized after an 8-hour work day (as opposed to angry, tired and stressed after a 10-hour one), his family may well find it a wonderful trade-off.</p>
<p>I think we invest way too much faith in the power of consumerism to make us happy, even though all pscychological studies show that, no, that 45&#8243; flat-screen TV will not make us any happier. At all.</p>
<p>I agree with you completely on the necessity of motivating each person differently. What makes Ed happy will make Jane terribly unhappy and vice versa. I really like your point about &#8220;making sure that the compensation packages I offered to recruits addressed all of the stakeholders in the decision making process&#8221;.</p>
<p>As for the tasks that no one likes: They might be fewer than we think. When we allow people to choose for themselves the tasks they like to do, there will probably always be some left over, but often surprisingly few. I wrote about it here:<br />
<a href="http://positivesharing.com/2006/08/lets-lose-the-job-descriptions" rel="nofollow">http://positivesharing.com/2006/08/lets-lose-the-job-descriptions</a></p>
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		<title>By: matt m</title>
		<link>http://positivesharing.com/2006/09/top-performers-leaving-in-droves/#comment-4956</link>
		<dc:creator>matt m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm...money can&#039;t buy happiness, but I think one thing that gets often overlooked is that job satisfaction doesn&#039;t really extend to other members of your family.  From your family&#039;s perspective, the most important aspects of the job are money and time.  More money and more convenient work times are the primary motivating factors for the other people that depend on you, and sometimes their happiness has a bigger effect on yours than anything that happens at the office.  If I came home saying- wow, what a great day I had today. I took a 20% paycut, but now I get to do all of these fun, creative things...

It&#039;s just not compatible with a consumption oriented culture, where people become happy in their lives by acquiring objects, which helps them set their status/feed their ego relative to others.  

As the president of a small consulting company, I have seen radically different motivations from people whose goals in life have been set to provide for others, versus those who are free to &quot;self-actualize&quot; or whatever.  While it doesn&#039;t necessarily change what they want out of a daily work environment, that definitely becomes a secondary priority.  If the work environment is bad, they may leave, but as long as it&#039;s okay, it allows them to satisfy the other important decision makers in their life.  One of the most important things I learned from &quot;Hiring the Best&quot; ( http://www.jrothman.com/books.html ) was to make sure that the compensation packages I offered to recruits addressed all of the stakeholders in the decision making process, whether that means the wife who is worried about the job stability of her husband working at smaller firm, or a single mother that needs lots of time flexibility, you have to look at the whole family...

I think the other aspect is that there are jobs that almost no one enjoys, but nonetheless have to be done.  The way to get people to do these jobs is to attach money or status to them.  For example, most of what a &quot;manager&quot; ends up doing in a lot of organizations is easier and more boring than what someone in a more purely creative role might do.  However, the status and money that come with the job make it worthwhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;money can&#8217;t buy happiness, but I think one thing that gets often overlooked is that job satisfaction doesn&#8217;t really extend to other members of your family.  From your family&#8217;s perspective, the most important aspects of the job are money and time.  More money and more convenient work times are the primary motivating factors for the other people that depend on you, and sometimes their happiness has a bigger effect on yours than anything that happens at the office.  If I came home saying- wow, what a great day I had today. I took a 20% paycut, but now I get to do all of these fun, creative things&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just not compatible with a consumption oriented culture, where people become happy in their lives by acquiring objects, which helps them set their status/feed their ego relative to others.  </p>
<p>As the president of a small consulting company, I have seen radically different motivations from people whose goals in life have been set to provide for others, versus those who are free to &#8220;self-actualize&#8221; or whatever.  While it doesn&#8217;t necessarily change what they want out of a daily work environment, that definitely becomes a secondary priority.  If the work environment is bad, they may leave, but as long as it&#8217;s okay, it allows them to satisfy the other important decision makers in their life.  One of the most important things I learned from &#8220;Hiring the Best&#8221; ( <a href="http://www.jrothman.com/books.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jrothman.com/books.html</a> ) was to make sure that the compensation packages I offered to recruits addressed all of the stakeholders in the decision making process, whether that means the wife who is worried about the job stability of her husband working at smaller firm, or a single mother that needs lots of time flexibility, you have to look at the whole family&#8230;</p>
<p>I think the other aspect is that there are jobs that almost no one enjoys, but nonetheless have to be done.  The way to get people to do these jobs is to attach money or status to them.  For example, most of what a &#8220;manager&#8221; ends up doing in a lot of organizations is easier and more boring than what someone in a more purely creative role might do.  However, the status and money that come with the job make it worthwhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander</title>
		<link>http://positivesharing.com/2006/09/top-performers-leaving-in-droves/#comment-4889</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 08:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben: What&#039;s interesting is that a litigious atmosphere comes from a lack of trust. A lack of trust comes from a lack of communication. So your policy would probably result in FEWER lawsuits.

Nathan: Nice Buddha analogy :o)

Victoire: Thanks for the link, that is an EXCELLENT article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben: What&#8217;s interesting is that a litigious atmosphere comes from a lack of trust. A lack of trust comes from a lack of communication. So your policy would probably result in FEWER lawsuits.</p>
<p>Nathan: Nice Buddha analogy :o)</p>
<p>Victoire: Thanks for the link, that is an EXCELLENT article!</p>
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		<title>By: victoire</title>
		<link>http://positivesharing.com/2006/09/top-performers-leaving-in-droves/#comment-4695</link>
		<dc:creator>victoire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi ben... i just received an article from the GIBS Review, which has relevance to your post about visiting employees on the floor... here&#039;s an excerpt, the rest can be found at http://tinyurl.com/zfjxr

&quot;When it comes to receiving information and providing feedback, employees prefer hearing it from their direct managers or supervisors. They also prefer having their managers come to their desks to sit and chat about work.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi ben&#8230; i just received an article from the GIBS Review, which has relevance to your post about visiting employees on the floor&#8230; here&#8217;s an excerpt, the rest can be found at <a href="http://tinyurl.com/zfjxr" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/zfjxr</a></p>
<p>&#8220;When it comes to receiving information and providing feedback, employees prefer hearing it from their direct managers or supervisors. They also prefer having their managers come to their desks to sit and chat about work.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: nathan</title>
		<link>http://positivesharing.com/2006/09/top-performers-leaving-in-droves/#comment-4529</link>
		<dc:creator>nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, just a quick comment on this article.  I think that the reasons people leave companies in general a lot of times boils down to mazlow&#039;s hierarcy of needs.  People need money to survive, if that need is met, we can move on towards self actualization.  Great companies foster this drive.  Bad companies actively work to impair someone&#039;s drive to self-actualization.  As you move up the hierarchy your satisfation and performance increases, everyone wins.  But if you are inhibited from improvement, or actually degraded, then your focus adjusts until it finally becomes a money issue.  At this point, most people will leave teh company.  If they can line up a company that now satisfies their current need (money), they jump ship and can start down the road to self-actualization again.

Let me offer an anology between the two types of companies.  A good company would offer the Buddha the most nurturing environment possible so that the Buddha could obtain nirvana.  A bad company would expect this at a rock concert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, just a quick comment on this article.  I think that the reasons people leave companies in general a lot of times boils down to mazlow&#8217;s hierarcy of needs.  People need money to survive, if that need is met, we can move on towards self actualization.  Great companies foster this drive.  Bad companies actively work to impair someone&#8217;s drive to self-actualization.  As you move up the hierarchy your satisfation and performance increases, everyone wins.  But if you are inhibited from improvement, or actually degraded, then your focus adjusts until it finally becomes a money issue.  At this point, most people will leave teh company.  If they can line up a company that now satisfies their current need (money), they jump ship and can start down the road to self-actualization again.</p>
<p>Let me offer an anology between the two types of companies.  A good company would offer the Buddha the most nurturing environment possible so that the Buddha could obtain nirvana.  A bad company would expect this at a rock concert.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://positivesharing.com/2006/09/top-performers-leaving-in-droves/#comment-4494</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The school of litigous fear.  The company has a detrimental fear of being sued for sexual harassment and discrimination in particular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The school of litigous fear.  The company has a detrimental fear of being sued for sexual harassment and discrimination in particular.</p>
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		<title>By: Great comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>Great comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And finally, Ben tells the story of a great initiative that&#8217;s being shut down: A few months ago, I mentioned we started an initiative for the supervisors to walk around and speak to employees more. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And finally, Ben tells the story of a great initiative that&#8217;s being shut down: A few months ago, I mentioned we started an initiative for the supervisors to walk around and speak to employees more. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander</title>
		<link>http://positivesharing.com/2006/09/top-performers-leaving-in-droves/#comment-4455</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben: What a stupid response from the company to a great, great practice. I gotta wonder what school of management states that contact between employees and managers is such a minefield that it can only happen under strictly controlled circumstances and must be held at a minimum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben: What a stupid response from the company to a great, great practice. I gotta wonder what school of management states that contact between employees and managers is such a minefield that it can only happen under strictly controlled circumstances and must be held at a minimum.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that money isn&#039;t the only thing.  I&#039;ve found that the more you get paid, the more people expect of you.  The more they expect, the higher the stress and the lower the happiness.  At least that&#039;s how things work here.  Some of the simple things that make people happy are being taken away here in the name of &quot;security&quot; and it has an effect.  A few months ago, I mentioned we started an initiative for the supervisors to walk around and speak to employees more.  In the end, I was the only one doing it and I was basically told not to because if I didn&#039;t say hello to every single employee, it may appear to be discrimination or preferential treatment.  It was even suggested that talking to one or two people of the opposite gender could appear to be an inter-office affair.  There are so many biases there that I can&#039;t even begin to comment.  End result, employees are now upset that I never come by to check on them, I was the only one that did and they want to know why I stopped.  No good deed goes unpunished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that money isn&#8217;t the only thing.  I&#8217;ve found that the more you get paid, the more people expect of you.  The more they expect, the higher the stress and the lower the happiness.  At least that&#8217;s how things work here.  Some of the simple things that make people happy are being taken away here in the name of &#8220;security&#8221; and it has an effect.  A few months ago, I mentioned we started an initiative for the supervisors to walk around and speak to employees more.  In the end, I was the only one doing it and I was basically told not to because if I didn&#8217;t say hello to every single employee, it may appear to be discrimination or preferential treatment.  It was even suggested that talking to one or two people of the opposite gender could appear to be an inter-office affair.  There are so many biases there that I can&#8217;t even begin to comment.  End result, employees are now upset that I never come by to check on them, I was the only one that did and they want to know why I stopped.  No good deed goes unpunished.</p>
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		<title>By: CannotTell</title>
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		<dc:creator>CannotTell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, it  was because I needed more time to invest on my personal project...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, it  was because I needed more time to invest on my personal project&#8230;</p>
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