Comments on: Ask the CHO: Should you work for a year in a job that sucks http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/ Make Yourself and Your Business Happy At Work Sun, 20 May 2012 05:56:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Idil http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-261066 Idil Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:52:53 +0000 http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-261066 First of all I want to say thanks to everyone, as all your comment and insight on the issue has helped me reach a decision today on whether to accept a job which I have no interest to pursue in the long term and is below my skills and qualifications. I graduated in the summer of 2011 and so far I have been looking for the job that relates to what I have studies. Recently I had an offer for an entry administration job which involves great deal of photocopying and opening mails etc. I decided to reject this job as it is far from what I want to do and reading the majority of your comments and the main article reinforced my decision which I am very happy about. First of all I want to say thanks to everyone, as all your comment and insight on the issue has helped me reach a decision today on whether to accept a job which I have no interest to pursue in the long term and is below my skills and qualifications. I graduated in the summer of 2011 and so far I have been looking for the job that relates to what I have studies. Recently I had an offer for an entry administration job which involves great deal of photocopying and opening mails etc. I decided to reject this job as it is far from what I want to do and reading the majority of your comments and the main article reinforced my decision which I am very happy about.

]]> By: Neva http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-260712 Neva Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:55:33 +0000 http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-260712 It is important to work for your own dreams and, by extension, your children's dreams. Not your parents' dreams; not your wife's dreams. What is your passion? What are your strengths? What are your values? Determine those, then create goals based on them, and do whatever you have to do to make those goals come true. You don't elaborate on the weaknesses that your co-workers are picking apart, so we don't know if you are a victim in your situation or playing a role in it. In any event a bullying environment is no place to work. As long as you are in the thick of such an environment, you will not be happy in it. Happiness requires focusing on our strengths, not fixing our weaknesses. We are completely responsible for the situations in which we find ourselves, either by past decisions we have made, or how we react to situations beyond our control (for example, how people treat us at work). To be happy, we have to be in control of our lives. It is important to work for your own dreams and, by extension, your children’s dreams. Not your parents’ dreams; not your wife’s dreams.

What is your passion? What are your strengths? What are your values? Determine those, then create goals based on them, and do whatever you have to do to make those goals come true.

You don’t elaborate on the weaknesses that your co-workers are picking apart, so we don’t know if you are a victim in your situation or playing a role in it. In any event a bullying environment is no place to work. As long as you are in the thick of such an environment, you will not be happy in it.

Happiness requires focusing on our strengths, not fixing our weaknesses.

We are completely responsible for the situations in which we find ourselves, either by past decisions we have made, or how we react to situations beyond our control (for example, how people treat us at work).

To be happy, we have to be in control of our lives.

]]> By: Evans http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-260664 Evans Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:51:05 +0000 http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-260664 Hi everyone. First and foremost, I would like to say that I deeply appreciate the comments that I have red here. It was great and significant. To start with, my story is a little bit different but in the end it falls to a similar situation. I am currently in an unhappy work evironment where most of my coworkers are abusive and unprofessional. Im already 3 yrs in my company and working overseas. I left my family, my wife and two kids to be able to find a living but life was not that good for me. I was verbally abused by my coworkers in so many different ways and theres a time where they ask for a fight with me. Until now it was an ordeal for me to work in a place where I know Im not happy. I would say that Im in the good side of attitude, but thing aren't made that way, sometimes the price of being kind to others is the thing called "abuse". There is a bullying happening on my workplace. One day I brought up this concern to one of my superior but in short to say he was not able to help me out. sad to say, Im still keeping this pain forthe sake my parents, wife and two kids and for my sister that Im supporting her studies. My work performance was good and expecting and dreaming of a promotion someday but unfortunately for me, people keep on bringing me down and attacking my weakness. I know that they forcing me and wanting me to resign from work. Im worried that if Im going to leave my job, my dream to be promoted someday will not be realized and I fear that I will not able to sustain the needs of my family, my housing loan will be subject to foreclosed because of unemployment if ever I resigned. Is it advisable for me to resign or to continue a job where I am in pain for three years in a row? Please help me be enlightened. Hi everyone. First and foremost, I would like to say that I deeply appreciate the comments that I have red here. It was great and significant. To start with, my story is a little bit different but in the end it falls to a similar situation. I am currently in an unhappy work evironment where most of my coworkers are abusive and unprofessional. Im already 3 yrs in my company and working overseas. I left my family, my wife and two kids to be able to find a living but life was not that good for me. I was verbally abused by my coworkers in so many different ways and theres a time where they ask for a fight with me. Until now it was an ordeal for me to work in a place where I know Im not happy. I would say that Im in the good side of attitude, but thing aren’t made that way, sometimes the price of being kind to others is the thing called “abuse”. There is a bullying happening on my workplace. One day I brought up this concern to one of my superior but in short to say he was not able to help me out. sad to say, Im still keeping this pain forthe sake my parents, wife and two kids and for my sister that Im supporting her studies. My work performance was good and expecting and dreaming of a promotion someday but unfortunately for me, people keep on bringing me down and attacking my weakness. I know that they forcing me and wanting me to resign from work. Im worried that if Im going to leave my job, my dream to be promoted someday will not be realized and I fear that I will not able to sustain the needs of my family, my housing loan will be subject to foreclosed because of unemployment if ever I resigned. Is it advisable for me to resign or to continue a job where I am in pain for three years in a row? Please help me be enlightened.

]]> By: Jelena http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-259995 Jelena Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:05:42 +0000 http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-259995 Bad job is like a bad relationship.. The sooner you get out of it - the better. Bad job is like a bad relationship.. The sooner you get out of it – the better.

]]> By: Neva http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-259841 Neva Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:42:19 +0000 http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-259841 Hi Ferdy, Something I have learned over my long years in the workforce is the following: If a person settles (for whatever reason) for a job beneath his/her level, experience and capability, he/she will always be treated at that settled level, no matter how good his/her ideas, no matter how much experience, no matter how bright. It doesn't matter if someone was once a CEO, if he/she settles for a middle-management job, that's how he/she will be treated. If someone was once a manager and settles for being an administrative assistant, that's how he/she will be treated. People settle for lesser jobs all the time for personal reasons, but most bosses don't like the idea of brighter people below them. They don't have the professionalism or leadership skills to work with that or to give people (other than themselves) opportunities to shine. Managements that understand the importance of inclusive management -- briefing and debriefing all relevant employees and getting the most out of them -- do great things for their corporations, but they are very few and far between. Get my drift? Do whatever it takes to find a job fitting for your level of competence, even if that means taking some extra courses in your own time, etc. As you change your focus on that new goal, the irritations at work will diminish, because you will have more important things on your mind; you will know that it is just a matter of time before you will be leaving. By the way, before you look for a new job, take the time to determine (in writing for on-going reference) your life goals to make sure any new job is not only aligned with your abilities, but also with your passions, strengths and lifetime goals. Hi Ferdy,

Something I have learned over my long years in the workforce is the following:

If a person settles (for whatever reason) for a job beneath his/her level, experience and capability, he/she will always be treated at that settled level, no matter how good his/her ideas, no matter how much experience, no matter how bright. It doesn’t matter if someone was once a CEO, if he/she settles for a middle-management job, that’s how he/she will be treated. If someone was once a manager and settles for being an administrative assistant, that’s how he/she will be treated.

People settle for lesser jobs all the time for personal reasons, but most bosses don’t like the idea of brighter people below them. They don’t have the professionalism or leadership skills to work with that or to give people (other than themselves) opportunities to shine.

Managements that understand the importance of inclusive management — briefing and debriefing all relevant employees and getting the most out of them — do great things for their corporations, but they are very few and far between.

Get my drift? Do whatever it takes to find a job fitting for your level of competence, even if that means taking some extra courses in your own time, etc.

As you change your focus on that new goal, the irritations at work will diminish, because you will have more important things on your mind; you will know that it is just a matter of time before you will be leaving.

By the way, before you look for a new job, take the time to determine (in writing for on-going reference) your life goals to make sure any new job is not only aligned with your abilities, but also with your passions, strengths and lifetime goals.

]]> By: Ferdy http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-259743 Ferdy Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:34:13 +0000 http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-259743 Hi everyone, thanks for all the comments, they´ve been inspiring and helpful. I´m working as an environmental specialist in this company for the last 4 years now. The job sounds great and it was fine for the first two years. There are things though that I started to notice whcih have made working suck and makes me want to quit: 1. direct boss has no idea about environmental systems and my day to day work(he´s the quality manager but they added "environment " to his responsibilities) so it´s always me presenting and informing the general manager, HIS boss. It´s so dysfunctional because my category is much lower thatn the general manager and yet I have to eat all his stupid comments and remarks . plus all this makes me look bad with my direct boss. its driving me nuts. 2 . a lot of coworkers i have to work with are department heads and bosses by their own right, i.e. higher level than me so a lot of times my emails arent answered, i´m belittled, not listed to, treated like shit. Another dysfunctional aspect to this job of mine. i feel sometimes like im banging my head agains the wall and all i do is annoy people. 3. The environmental work im doing has come down to paperwork ,documents authorizations and managing external companies, and maintaining an environmental procedural system. I carry outt few continuous improvement or betterment projects because nobody is interested here in environment. But they do end up forcing projects on me cause our environmental system requires it and although it´s challenging i hate it cause its all political , nobody´s interested and it just means i have to deal with those darn managers. This has sapped most of my motivation and interest i n work. 4. pay is low for what i do and the responsibilities i have. Dont know what to do, i feel like if i quit im a loserand throwing in the towel. thanks guys for reading this. Hi everyone, thanks for all the comments, they´ve been inspiring and helpful. I´m working as an environmental specialist in this company for the last 4 years now.
The job sounds great and it was fine for the first two years.
There are things though that I started to notice whcih have made working suck and makes me want to quit:
1. direct boss has no idea about environmental systems and my day to day work(he´s the quality manager but they added “environment ” to his responsibilities) so it´s always me presenting and informing the general manager, HIS boss. It´s so dysfunctional because my category is much lower thatn the general manager and yet I have to eat all his stupid comments and remarks . plus all this makes me look bad with my direct boss. its driving me nuts.
2 . a lot of coworkers i have to work with are department heads and bosses by their own right, i.e. higher level than me so a lot of times my emails arent answered, i´m belittled, not listed to, treated like shit. Another dysfunctional aspect to this job of mine. i feel sometimes like im banging my head agains the wall and all i do is annoy people.
3. The environmental work im doing has come down to paperwork ,documents authorizations and managing external companies, and maintaining an environmental procedural system.
I carry outt few continuous improvement or betterment projects because nobody is interested here in environment. But they do end up forcing projects on me cause our environmental system requires it and although it´s challenging i hate it cause its all political , nobody´s interested and it just means i have to deal with those darn managers.
This has sapped most of my motivation and interest i n work.
4. pay is low for what i do and the responsibilities i have.

Dont know what to do, i feel like if i quit im a loserand throwing in the towel.
thanks guys for reading this.

]]> By: K. http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-259586 K. Mon, 16 Jan 2012 04:32:12 +0000 http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-259586 I am in an abusive work situation with a boss that throws emotional tantrums like a toddler. I am yelled at on a weekly basis by this woman who is also the owner of the business. I have only been there for 3 months and I have almost quit numerous times. It has gotten to the point where I tell myself I am quitting everyday, yet everyday I still find myself continuing to go in because I have no choice since I am single and have to pay the rent, bills, car payment, etcetera by myself. I was laid off from my last position when the economy went south and found myself unemployed for nearly 2 years. I live in a small somewhat economically depressed town where good paying jobs are sometimes hard to come by. I don't want to move because this is where my family lives but I just feel so trapped right now. I am stressed out to the point where my physical health is being affected now. I am depressed and constantly tense because you never know when the owner is going to blow up. The job doesn't pay me enough to pay my monthly bills so financially I am going in a hole every month. I am furiously looking for another job, but fear it may take another 2 years to find one and I cannot stay in this job that long. It's Sunday night right now and I am in tears as I write this because I can't stand the thought of going back there. I want to quit so badly, but how can I when I'm the only source of income? I hate the owner with a passion, which affects my job performance and my attitude. Just the very thought of her makes me sick. The job itself is monotonous, boring and even worse, it doesn't allow me to use any of my best and/or favorite skills. If I didn't need what little money I get, I would have left the first time she yelled/cussed at me. I feel as though I have compromised my dignity and self-respect in ways I never would have before this recession. I don't know what to do and I can't find any advice for people that are single and in my situation. I'm trying to do the responsible thing by hanging in, because if I quit and it takes a long time to get another job like it did last time, I'll end up losing everything. At the same time. I feel like everyday I go to that place, I am taking one step closer to a mental breakdown. I am in an abusive work situation with a boss that throws emotional tantrums like a toddler. I am yelled at on a weekly basis by this woman who is also the owner of the business. I have only been there for 3 months and I have almost quit numerous times. It has gotten to the point where I tell myself I am quitting everyday, yet everyday I still find myself continuing to go in because I have no choice since I am single and have to pay the rent, bills, car payment, etcetera by myself. I was laid off from my last position when the economy went south and found myself unemployed for nearly 2 years. I live in a small somewhat economically depressed town where good paying jobs are sometimes hard to come by. I don’t want to move because this is where my family lives but I just feel so trapped right now. I am stressed out to the point where my physical health is being affected now. I am depressed and constantly tense because you never know when the owner is going to blow up. The job doesn’t pay me enough to pay my monthly bills so financially I am going in a hole every month. I am furiously looking for another job, but fear it may take another 2 years to find one and I cannot stay in this job that long. It’s Sunday night right now and I am in tears as I write this because I can’t stand the thought of going back there. I want to quit so badly, but how can I when I’m the only source of income? I hate the owner with a passion, which affects my job performance and my attitude. Just the very thought of her makes me sick. The job itself is monotonous, boring and even worse, it doesn’t allow me to use any of my best and/or favorite skills. If I didn’t need what little money I get, I would have left the first time she yelled/cussed at me. I feel as though I have compromised my dignity and self-respect in ways I never would have before this recession. I don’t know what to do and I can’t find any advice for people that are single and in my situation. I’m trying to do the responsible thing by hanging in, because if I quit and it takes a long time to get another job like it did last time, I’ll end up losing everything. At the same time. I feel like everyday I go to that place, I am taking one step closer to a mental breakdown.

]]> By: soku http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-259522 soku Fri, 13 Jan 2012 04:37:13 +0000 http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-259522 ooopps... let me correct a statement : I moved from a major TTL domain company to this small firm to start this outsourced project. Inspite of all the miserable things my team does to me, i make sure that my client is happy :) ooopps… let me correct a statement : I moved from a major TTL domain company to this small firm to start this outsourced project. Inspite of all the miserable things my team does to me, i make sure that my client is happy :)

]]> By: soku http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-259506 soku Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:40:55 +0000 http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-259506 I am so glad this website is here. I feel bad for everyone out there going through such rough times but this has been a real help. The more I write, the more I realize I have to turn in my resignation. I am just scared. I am so glad this website is here. I feel bad for everyone out there going through such rough times but this has been a real help. The more I write, the more I realize I have to turn in my resignation. I am just scared.

]]> By: soku http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-259505 soku Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:31:56 +0000 http://positivesharing.com/2007/01/ask-the-cho-should-you-work-for-a-year-in-a-job-that-sucks/#comment-259505 Thanks so much for your mail! Last week the Hr gathered feedback from all employees and they have complained that they are not having enough responsibilities and want more visibility. Finally the management decided to share almost all of my activities with the team. We created separate heads in the team and now all my responsibility is given over to them. Kinda out of place and no work now. The saddest thing is that even still the people are not happy. This is a small Indian company and a totally unprofessional space to work. I moved from a major TTL domain company to this small firm to start this outsourced project. Inspite of all the miserable things my team does to me, i make sure that my client is not happy. Trust me this people work for money, fame, gossiping and back stabbing. These women are just brain washing many guys over here and taking them for a ride. None is able to identify the hidden motives of the person behind all this unhealthy politics in this place. I have no right to fire any one nor does my management want to do because it might spoil the credibility of the company. I agree that I am not cut out to be a manager in this place with the same team. If this team changes, things might change but trust me i am in the verge of letting this job go. should i wait for others to leave or shall i leave this place? The culture in india is so different. people and family and in-laws will betray me if i chose to get back to school. i cant leave this job because of family pressure too. Unfortunately the normal indian institutions dont groom and individual to dream, to have a goal or to be passionate about something. Trust me friend i too am out of focus. i wish i had some one in this world to help me out because i cant help myself. Thanks so much for your mail! Last week the Hr gathered feedback from all employees and they have complained that they are not having enough responsibilities and want more visibility. Finally the management decided to share almost all of my activities with the team. We created separate heads in the team and now all my responsibility is given over to them. Kinda out of place and no work now. The saddest thing is that even still the people are not happy. This is a small Indian company and a totally unprofessional space to work. I moved from a major TTL domain company to this small firm to start this outsourced project. Inspite of all the miserable things my team does to me, i make sure that my client is not happy. Trust me this people work for money, fame, gossiping and back stabbing. These women are just brain washing many guys over here and taking them for a ride. None is able to identify the hidden motives of the person behind all this unhealthy politics in this place. I have no right to fire any one nor does my management want to do because it might spoil the credibility of the company. I agree that I am not cut out to be a manager in this place with the same team. If this team changes, things might change but trust me i am in the verge of letting this job go. should i wait for others to leave or shall i leave this place? The culture in india is so different. people and family and in-laws will betray me if i chose to get back to school. i cant leave this job because of family pressure too. Unfortunately the normal indian institutions dont groom and individual to dream, to have a goal or to be passionate about something. Trust me friend i too am out of focus. i wish i had some one in this world to help me out because i cant help myself.

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